Realm: Mistblade Mistblade vol.2 feedback & ideas.

[Kay20]

7 hours ago, ICritMyKilt said:

It happened on my 90 rogue in a MoP heroic. If it happens again, I will try to get screen grab and date/time details for a bug report.

it happens all the time. they just dont get it. and its just their "vision" of the server should be. just dont see how it effects the server health in the long run at all

[Crysis]

1 hour ago, Kay20 said:

it happens all the time. they just dont get it. and its just their "vision" of the server should be. just dont see how it effects the server health in the long run at all

I DO get it.

Aithne just told you that it's LITERALLY impossible to prove people's intentions. If a any server says that they police ninja looting and that it's fair and solid policy - they are lying to you and to themselves.
There are too many class/spec combinations, too many variables such as unclear loot rules (was such announced before? Can you prove these were announced or not?)for me to create solid, fair, just policy which would work in 100% cases.

 

You want me to create anti ninja looting policy? I can assure you - 90% of reports would be declined due to lack of evidence.

[ICritMyKilt]

You would have to record every single dungeon from the popup to enter all the way to the exit and inspect each player upon entering to prove there was ninja looting that was not previously discussed and agreed upon. Then the GMs would have to watch every submitted video and sort through the Rick rolls and bullshit claims to fine the genuine ninja looting claims where people were not playing fair. I totally agree that it sucks when people do not play fair and nice to each other, but the expectation of proper policing of it is far outside the bounds of what is possible. Most people probably wouldn't know how to record their game play or would enter the dungeon forgetting to turn it on so then you would get he said/she said claims with no evidence and you would have to talk to all dungeon run participants and then you'd get two or three people who are actually friends that back each other's story whether it is 100% true or not and you have to figure out what is the actual truth. You could also have a policy of "no video, no case", but then people will gripe because "he ninja looted and the GM wouldn't do anything because my video didn't record right because I ran out of HDD space." or whatever excuse. No the sad fact is that it is just not feasible to properly police it and any sort of game changes to let the group try to police it wouldn't be fair either just like the group vote kick.  Let's say you are in a dungeon and there are a few people need rolling when they shouldn't and you try to vote kick one, but his buddies are the other ninja looters and click no; now you can't get rid of the ninja looters, but they could get rid of you and put you back in the dungeon queue. How about if you do vote kick and then it takes ages to get another tank/healer and the group crumbles and you have to go re-queue to get another group? Anything added to the game to help the group police the dungeon could be misused and abused so it is a double-edged sword.

[Query]

2 hours ago, ICritMyKilt said:

You would have to record every single dungeon from the popup to enter all the way to the exit and inspect each player upon entering to prove there was ninja looting that was not previously discussed and agreed upon. Then the GMs would have to watch every submitted video and sort through the Rick rolls and bullshit claims to fine the genuine ninja looting claims where people were not playing fair. I totally agree that it sucks when people do not play fair and nice to each other, but the expectation of proper policing of it is far outside the bounds of what is possible. Most people probably wouldn't know how to record their game play or would enter the dungeon forgetting to turn it on so then you would get he said/she said claims with no evidence and you would have to talk to all dungeon run participants and then you'd get two or three people who are actually friends that back each other's story whether it is 100% true or not and you have to figure out what is the actual truth. You could also have a policy of "no video, no case", but then people will gripe because "he ninja looted and the GM wouldn't do anything because my video didn't record right because I ran out of HDD space." or whatever excuse. No the sad fact is that it is just not feasible to properly police it and any sort of game changes to let the group try to police it wouldn't be fair either just like the group vote kick.  Let's say you are in a dungeon and there are a few people need rolling when they shouldn't and you try to vote kick one, but his buddies are the other ninja looters and click no; now you can't get rid of the ninja looters, but they could get rid of you and put you back in the dungeon queue. How about if you do vote kick and then it takes ages to get another tank/healer and the group crumbles and you have to go re-queue to get another group? Anything added to the game to help the group police the dungeon could be misused and abused so it is a double-edged sword.

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[step]

Yo, I've noticed that the arenas look a little dead, more in the horde side than in the Alliance (speaking of looking for a partner), I think it would be a good idea to add the racial change and if that is not possible make the horde people and  the alliance can play arenas in groups regardless of their faction, cross pvp arena(rbgs too idk). Thats my suggestion for make pvp more great and playable for all 🙂

[zazasmoka]

honestly just say you cant solve all the ninja looting going around and that ninja looting is part of the server. i have played other servers where they do address ninja looting including in retail. the amount of nija looting from leveling up isnt fun, and they taunt you for it. why even run dungeons at that point if everyone is going to need because 1 they can ninja and 2 they have to need in case someone tries to ninja loot. damned if you do, damned if you dont.

 

if ninja looting is just part of this server then, i dont want to be part of it. imagine end game raids.... what a complete nightmare.

 

edit. yea i just finished reading earlier posts, im out. i get the mindset now thanks for trying anyways. this was a good learning point, always check server policy before committing.

Edited December 12, 2023 by zazasmoka

[ICritMyKilt]

17 hours ago, zazasmoka said:

if ninja looting is just part of this server then, i dont want to be part of it. imagine end game raids.... what a complete nightmare.

If you had actually bothered to read the discussion, you would know that there are not enough GMs or hours in the day to address ninja looting in dungeons. End-game raiding is a completely other beast all together. First and fore most, you do not end-game raid in PUGs.  There is a loot master and a pre-determined ruleset for looting.  If there is a dispute over heroic SoO drops then the GMs would be more inclined to intervene, but because you lost the 463 blue sword is not worth the effort to try to figure out if you or the person that won it actually deserves it.  Furthermore, if you played on a server that addressed it at the dungeon level, then it was not handled well.  They probably addressed complaints by just handing you both a copy of the item so you'd both leave happy and stop bugging them over insignificant stuff.  That or they have WAY more staff to address issues than Stormforge does.

My question though is, if other servers are so great and run so much better, why are you here?

[ythealien]

On 12/12/2023 at 6:11 PM, zazasmoka said:

honestly just say you cant solve all the ninja looting going around and that ninja looting is part of the server. i have played other servers where they do address ninja looting including in retail.

If you mean switching to personal loot as "addressing" it, sure, but Blizzard has never punished "ninja looting" in 5-man dungeons on retail, ever.

Edited December 14, 2023 by ythealien

[yuceliko]

-NPC at the entrance of each raid instance that would enable optional dampening. like 20% (percenage should be tested on ptr to find the sweet difficulty spot) similar to icecrown citedal optional buff.

-While dampening is on 10 man bosses drop 3 loot instead of 2. 25 man bosses drop 8 loot instead of 5.

hows my suggestion.

[Crysis]

On 12/16/2023 at 5:56 AM, yuceliko said:

-NPC at the entrance of each raid instance that would enable optional dampening. like 20% (percenage should be tested on ptr to find the sweet difficulty spot) similar to icecrown citedal optional buff.

-While dampening is on 10 man bosses drop 3 loot instead of 2. 25 man bosses drop 8 loot instead of 5.

hows my suggestion.

cute yet idk if possible.

[yuceliko]

if you guys can pull that off would be awesome for players seeking additional challenge. especially for those who clears heroics 1st day and feels content is relatively easy.

[Aithne]

Not really feasible and potentially disastrous if even slightly mis-tuned.

[yuceliko]

a lot of private servers apply dampening without any issues. so mistblade is incapable of doing that.? even if its gonna be optional difficulty

[Aithne]

Fucking with the loot is the more painful part, not arbitrarily buffing/nerfing raids.

[wowlexx82]

All good - but .xp 0.5 for me everything I need.

[mooncake]

Pls remove conquest point requirement from weapon, it's just impossible to play pvp casually

[Crysis]

23 hours ago, mooncake said:

Pls remove conquest point requirement from weapon, it's just impossible to play pvp casually

I have already addressed this.
DevTeam declined it.

[ICritMyKilt]

On 1/13/2024 at 6:46 AM, mooncake said:

Pls remove conquest point requirement from weapon, it's just impossible to play pvp casually

No, it is not. It is impossible to be #1 in PvP casually and that is by design, if you want to beat the hardcore dedicated people then you need to be hardcore dedicated too.

[Gilbik]

There seems to be a problem in the 3vs3 solo arena. People with high ratings often end up on the same team, time after time, with each other. People with low ratings are exactly the same. Due to the small number of people, there is a tendency: People with high ratings constantly go up against people with low ratings and destroy them without a chance. Is it possible to create mixed teams somehow? Or something like that.

The arena turns into a farm.

For example, a top-1 2v2 team constantly falls into the same team in the 3 vs 3 Solo arena.

[step]

Is arena cross possible? i mean horde and alliance can be in group and que 2s-3s-rbgs, that could be great for pvp players

Edited January 18 by step

[Crysis]

On 1/18/2024 at 2:50 PM, step said:

Is arena cross possible? i mean horde and alliance can be in group and que 2s-3s-rbgs, that could be great for pvp players

It was already addressed before. Impossible at the moment.

[fredjacobsen]

I haven't been able to find information anywhere - how come the quests for Timeless Isle & Isle of Thunder are not available?

[ythealien]

3 hours ago, fredjacobsen said:

I haven't been able to find information anywhere - how come the quests for Timeless Isle & Isle of Thunder are not available?

Why would the Isle of Thunder or Timeless Isle be available prior to the release of T15 or T16?

[lolopon14]

hi i dont know where to post calling for help...i cannot log into my account...i dont use any scripts and i respect all rules in server and comunity...last week cannot enter...help me find a response plz

[Lotur]

1 hour ago, lolopon14 said:

hi i dont know where to post calling for help...i cannot log into my account...i dont use any scripts and i respect all rules in server and comunity...last week cannot enter...help me find a response plz

Hey you can either join our discord or create a thread in here and if there is anyone available will help you asap